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Can a morally excellent person be taken to court?
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Why should singer Neyo have to pay...it's not his fault

Thu Aug 26, 2010 5:15 PM EDT
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Reportedly Neyo didn't show up for a show somewhere in Maryland and the people where Neyo was suppose to be performing got mad and sued Neyo. I don't know the ins and outs of show business but i know i would not want to have to give anybody not one red penny of my money. If I didn't show up well so what. Trying to rip him off. It should be against the law it's not like he's a lip singer with no talent. It's Neyo for pete sakes. I bet they wouldn't do that s@#— to Barbara Streisand.

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wow

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Reply#1 - Thu Aug 26, 2010 5:18 PM EDT
kazutam

If I didn't show up well so what.

That's breach of contract.

Because believe it or not these things are NOT just done with a handshake and a smile, there is actual legal paperwork involved.

Plus was he paid ahead of time for the concert?

  • 2 votes
Reply#2 - Thu Aug 26, 2010 6:05 PM EDT
Danese

um huum. I hear you.

  • 1 vote
Reply#3 - Thu Aug 26, 2010 6:14 PM EDT
jeremy-17

I don't know who this is and there's a real good chance I won't be able to tolerate his music but these people paid for their tickets. I'd want a refund as well.

With this happening I'd have to seriously wonder what this says about his loyalty to the fans.

  • 2 votes
Reply#4 - Thu Aug 26, 2010 9:07 PM EDT
Decurion_505

Ticket refunds and more. The management of the venue has to cover operating expenses: staff, security, utilities, etc... There is also the "loss of revenue" angle. If this performer had given some advance notice of this no-show, the venue may have been able to book some other act or acts, or even just tell the event staff not to come to work that night. Also, concessionaires have paid fees to the venue management (and to Neyo's management as well) for the right to sell licensed merchandise on premises during the event; these fees must be refunded too.

I bet they wouldn't do that s@#— to Barbara Streisand.

WTF is that about, Danese?? Are you implying that this lawsuit is racially/culturally motivated? Hogwash. This isn't about race or culture, it's about good business practices (or lack thereof) and legal contractual obligations on the part of the performer and his/her management. Would you post links to any articles concerning this? More detail would be appreciated. Posting this as news with no more detail than you have is considered "bad form".

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#4.1 - Tue Aug 31, 2010 1:46 AM EDT
Danese

sometimes things unexpectedly happen and the actions are inappropriate. What if he had an emergency (loss of a loved one, he may have gotten sick or ill, ect) This is his job like anybody else's. It's just like people sueing you for a fender bender and they fake being hurt.

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#4.2 - Tue Aug 31, 2010 7:39 AM EDT
Decurion_505

sometimes things unexpectedly happen

In cases of the unexpected, managers/booking agents must act quickly in order to limit liability for their principal, the performer. That is part of their job.

Contracts are legally binding. Without legal protections for all parties to a contract, our system of business, indeed our entire economy, would devolve into chaos.

...people sueing you for a fender bender and they fake being hurt.

No, that is fraud, and as such is a crime. Your statement comes close to an accusation of criminal fraud on the part of the venue's managers/owners. As I said before, this discussion requires more detail on the incident.

  • 1 vote
#4.3 - Tue Aug 31, 2010 5:09 PM EDT
kazutam

As I said before, this discussion requires more detail on the incident.

From the comments already made by the seeder, I seriously doubt that any additional information will be forth coming.

  • 2 votes
#4.4 - Tue Aug 31, 2010 5:25 PM EDT
jeremy-17

Danese,

What are the circumstances that he didn't do the performance. If it is a ligitimate reason (illness, family emergency, etc.) then, in most cases he should notify his agent and the promoter to find a substitute or work out an alternate date for the performance.

If he just didn't show up then that could fall into some contractual legal issues. Not only to the promoter but to the fans as well.

  • 2 votes
#4.5 - Wed Sep 1, 2010 8:07 PM EDT
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Danese

In cases of the unexpected, managers/booking agents must act quickly in order to limit liability for their principal, the performer. That is part of their job.

that's why Neo should not have to pay. If I was him I would appeal it all the way to chancery court if I had tol. I wouldn't accept it. He has natural talent. You can't make somebody with a talent like that pay for not appearing. He's an artist not a performer. Barbara Streisand is a perforfmer.

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Reply#5 - Wed Sep 1, 2010 2:12 PM EDT
kazutam

You can't make somebody with a talent like that pay for not appearing.

ROTFLMMFAO!!!!!!

So if let's say a Barry Sanders or a Micheal Jordan just really didn't feel like playing one season in the middle of his contract, he shouldn't be held liable for not playing? After all with a "talent" like that...................

  • 2 votes
#5.1 - Wed Sep 1, 2010 2:15 PM EDT
Decurion_505

What in the blazing blue hells does talent have to do with contractual obligation?? Your characterization of Barbra Streisand as any less a talent than Neyo is purely biased and uninformed personal opinion. Call me in thirty years or so. We'll see if he stands the test of time. And record sales.

  • 1 vote
#5.2 - Fri Sep 3, 2010 5:59 AM EDT
Danese

Excuse me but I love Barbara Streisand. I was trying to make a point. She is the best performer that I know. She's an excellent performer, who gives an excellent performance. Both Neo and Barbara are talented obviously. That objective is off my topic. The subject is Neyo.

  • 1 vote
#5.3 - Fri Sep 3, 2010 11:00 AM EDT
jeremy-17

The Barbra Streisand alalogy is lost. You may think she's a great artist but that is your opinion. My opinion is the opposite. This isn't about who has talent and who doesn't. It's about this Neyo possibly skipping town with these peoples money.

  • 1 vote
#5.4 - Fri Sep 3, 2010 11:23 PM EDT
Danese

 

contract

noun

ˈkɒntrækt ˈkɑːntrækt

1 an official written agreementa contract of employmenta research contract contract with somebody to enter into/make/sign a contract with the supplier contract between A and B These clauses form part of the contract between buyer and seller. contract for something a contract for the supply of vehicles contract to do something to win/be awarded a contract to build a new school a contract worker (= one employed on a contract for a fixed period of time) I was on a three-year contract that expired last week. Under the terms of the contract the job should have been finished yesterday. She is under contract to (= has a contract to work for) a major American computer firm. The offer has been accepted, subject to contract (= the agreement is not official until the contract is signed). They were sued for breach of contract (= not keeping to a contract). 2 contract (on somebody) (informal) an agreement to kill somebody for moneyto take out a contract on somebody

breach

noun

briːtʃ briːtʃ

(formal)1 [countable, uncountable] breach of something a failure to do something that must be done by lawa breach of contract/copyright/warrantyThey are in breach of Article 119. (British English) (a) breach of the peace (= the crime of behaving in a noisy or violent way in public)Selling goods constituted a breach of regulation 10B.2 [countable, uncountable] breach of something an action that breaks an agreement to behave in a particular waya breach of confidence/trusta breach of security (= when something that is normally protected is no longer secure)3 [countable] a break in a relationship between people or countriesa breach in Franco-German relations4 [countable] an opening that is created during a military attack or by strong winds or seasThey escaped through a breach in the wire fence.A breach in the mountain wall permits warm sea air to penetrate inland.
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see step into the breach at step verb

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After you put this together and add it up einstein, then you can see what i'm talking about. Neyo is innocent! and so is Barbara Streisand! Like I said. This could possibly illegally ruin his career.

  • 1 vote
#5.5 - Sat Sep 4, 2010 10:47 AM EDT
jeremy-17

Ok you found the definition of "contract". But each contract contains different information. The contract I signed when I joined the Army contains items that state that if I don't fulfill everything agreed upon then I could be sent to prison.

Neyo's contract more than likely contains something about what his responsibilities are and what the promoters responsibilities are in regards to cancellations or delays. Since nobody really know's why he didn't show or exactly what his contract with the promoter states then it's all speculation.

  • 2 votes
#5.6 - Sat Sep 4, 2010 3:56 PM EDT
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