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Are you feeling some kind of way that you can't quite describe, but it kind of make you sick to your stomache. I just can't explain it? I almost want to cry. I don't know? I'm disqusted and frustrated. It makes me want to cuss and freestlye. I'm tired of turning on the radio because I don''t own an Ipod and I'm not interested in one, I still like the radio) just to hear one good piece then it's followed with some bullst, sending me on an emotional rollercoaster. WTF, you'll trying to kill me! Did somebody die? Is there a musical strike going on or something? Pa leeeese help meeee understand. If somebody is mourning the loss...I apologize.
What in the name of rap and hiphop is going on in the music industry?
Tue Dec 28, 2010 11:36 AM EST
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Internet radio rules!!! (...but it's not always easy to get).
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#2 - Tue Dec 28, 2010 12:26 PM ESTI gave up on the radio somewhere around 03. Seems to me that almost everything played is targeted for my Kids (15, 20, and 22). Almost exclusively use XM Radio. If you are a fan on Old School Hip Hop that's what I'd recommend.
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#3 - Tue Dec 28, 2010 1:53 PM ESTActually the Old School channel doesn't edit at all. One of the channels for younger adults doesn't either there is one that does edit.
Not that I'm trying to sell you on it or anything like that.
About a year ago they changed formats and dropped the Old School Channel. I found a VP's e-mail and sent him the same e-mail for about eight times. I'm sure that quite a few people did but they brought it back (minus some very good Mix Shows).
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Who says you can't cuss on NV? Go ahead and cuss up a storm if you want. Just don't break CoH doing it.
Personally, I don't think music needs cussing to make it good or effective. I find cussing to be solely for shock value and mostly unnecessary. Can't think of what to say? Insert four-letter-word here. It requires no talent, thought or meaning.
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I understand your frustration. I think it's gonna get worse. Have you tried watching any videos lately?.... It's worse than the radio. I am still against buying an Ipod as well. Even though I do find myself saving it everything to my phone and using that.
Thought I wopuld get lucky when the XM developed an App for a smart phone and I'd be able to use that at the gym but there's no wifi connection so I had to develop another plan.
mschargerfan mentioned Jack FM. Never heard of that but I think I'll give that a shot.
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Jack FM (100.7 here in San Diego) is a format that plays pretty much everything. You hear Led Zeppelin's "Ramble On" right after you hear Jason Mraz "The Remedy" and before you hear the Commodores' "Brick House." You get plenty of 70s, 80s, 90s, and today on there. Only thing is that the station does not take requests and you do not know what you will be hearing next. You may have a morning show (Dave, Shelly & Chainsaw on the station here in San Diego, pretty funny), otherwise there are no DJs, just a guy recording jokes about the music. Below is a link to Wikipedia that has the list of Jack FM stations in the US.
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I think if it comes out that way, thats just the way it came out.
Yeah, the same thing happens when you take a dump, but no one tries to take a look at it and call it art.
- 3 votes
Yea maybe they should create a kid/youth station as well
Radio Disney
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its not going to change anytime soon. The popular artist will get played over and over, thats the way its going to be. Unless you invest in XM or an I-pod and download your own music you are gonna have to live with it.. I'll stick with downloading. If I hear another Drake or Lil Wayne song on the radio Ill scream myself... LMAO
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#4 - Tue Dec 28, 2010 2:10 PM ESTyea he is supposedly and rapper that can sing, but honestly his singing ability has only shown thru hooks. I havent heard much of him actually singing a full song.
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yea, some of his stuff I like. he still sounds like Lil Wayne to me tho.. I think Wayne writes for him so Ive heard, dunno for sure tho
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I stopped listening to hip-hop radio around 2002-03. I tried listening to it recently, about a month ago. The DJs there play the same thing over and over again! Not only that, a lot of the music out now has the same beat and don't get me started on the lyrics! UGH! I primarily listen to the old-school radio station or Jack FM. Sometimes I listen to some classic rock Outside of that it's Internet radio for me as I do not have an iPod or MP3 player (yet!).
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#5 - Tue Dec 28, 2010 2:48 PM ESTDanese, I stopped bothering with the major players and artisits a long time ago.
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I prefer Internet radio myself (I like Pandora, but pick whatever you like). What I've done is list the name of an artist and have the station play other artists that have a similar sound. If I like the artist enough, I'll play every YouTube video I can get my hands on. Beware, that may get repetitive if you're not careful.
Also, If you have digital cable or one of the Satellite services, check out their music channels. You'll never know what you'll find.
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#6 - Tue Dec 28, 2010 3:16 PM ESTequating rap and hip hop to music is treasonous
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i can just tell that you're one of them folks that thinks a turntable is an instrument
- 1 vote
Well Danese joins Sir Paul McCartney, Quincy Jones, Kenny Rogers, Paul Simon, Prince, Lenny Kravitz, Sir Elton John, John Mayer, Carlos Santana, Willie Nelson, Phil Collins, Roger Daltry, Peter Townshend, Steven Tyler, Joe Perry, Stevie Wonder, Sting in thinking Hip Hop is music.
But I'm sure you have a better understanding of music than all of those people.
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Well Danese joins Sir Paul McCartney, Quincy Jones, Kenny Rogers, Paul Simon, Prince, Lenny Kravitz, Sir Elton John, John Mayer, Carlos Santana, Willie Nelson, Phil Collins, Roger Daltry, Peter Townshend, Steven Tyler, Joe Perry, Stevie Wonder, Sting in thinking Hip Hop is music.
But I'm sure you have a better understanding of music than all of those people.
no, they have a better understanding of what sells
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no, they have a better understanding of what sells
Glad to know you think you know more music than those people. :]
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all of the folks you mention (with the exception of quincy jones) would never have done anything with "rap", "hip hop" etc. if it weren't for the express purpose of selling a record. much like they all did during the disco nonsense. these people are entertainers and will use whatever means they deem necessary to sell their stuff and get airtime. that doesn't make a turntable a musical instrument and neither does sampling bits of other musicians work to put your "poetry" to it. one thing they all have in common is that they are masters of self promotion.
"the only bad publicity is no publicity", john lennon
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I'm glad you know each of these people personally. Many of those artist have not benefited from doing shows or songs with hip hop artists. Even Burt Bacharach has been working with Dr. Dre.
When it comes to sampling, it's no different than covering someone which everyone on that list has done at some point in time. Hip hop is just the grandchild of the blues. Though I'm not quite sure you've listened to hip hop to be a judge of it. But hey, who doesn't love reviews where the person doesn't know the material. That's why I look for book reviews from people who didn't read it.
But it really is impressive that you think because you don't like it, those artists wouldn't. Too bad there is audio & video proof of them with hip hop artists.
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there's video of truman and churchill with stalin also, it proves nothing.
and as far all your hip hop and rap "musicians" i've never seen one of them with an instrument.
your sampling analogy that it's "no different than covering" is laughable. i don't have to play anything to copy a loop of someone else's music, that's why they were all getting sued for copyright infringement back in the day. now, they have to get permission and pay royalties which is why you may see them "working" together. grandchild of the blues...tooooooo funny!!!
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and as far all your hip hop and rap "musicians" i've never seen one of them with an instrument.
I've seen three of them: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZ3fzO_seNE
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grandchild of the blues...tooooooo funny!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9V0tdWSYLE
Here's Nas with his father Jazz Musician Olu Dara.
and as far all your hip hop and rap "musicians" i've never seen one of them with an instrument.
The Roots: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQDldzdcu8g
Outkast: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LmWd-v7zrE
Lil' Wayne: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQ4IGC0916s
Wyclef Jean: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWSKNytTHsY
Sorry Perry but i believe you're simply reviewing something that you don't understand.
Kid Rock, Everlast are also pretty good musicians.
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Danese, when I read your title I thought you had stumbled upon this video expose.
Just to warn you, it's 11 episodes and once you start you won't stop.
...lol, I stayed up til 2 AM Sunday night watching, I was most shocked by DMX's "conversion".
- 2 votes
#9 - Tue Dec 28, 2010 7:21 PM ESTI think most of current music is in the gutter not just hip hop. Rock & Punk have taken a hard hit lately too.
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#11 - Wed Dec 29, 2010 1:18 PM ESTMusic has gotten really, really bad lately all genres, the Corporatacracy has taken all the creativity out of it, just formulaic garbage thought of and promoted by record producers, yuck.
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#12 - Wed Dec 29, 2010 2:14 PM ESTWe were just talking about how Taylor Swift can't even sing, cute yes talented No, good original creative and different music gets no spin, none. maybe this awful economy will spawn some great music, the whole whole hardship promotes creativity thing.
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You can thank the FCC under Bush Jr. They changed the rules so that companies like Clear Channel could buy up almost every radio station in the country. Now the stations are just clone copies of each other. In most cases there isn't even a DJ in the building, just an electrical engineer, or IT person.
As to Pop music, it will always be more about image than substance.
- 2 votes
#13 - Wed Dec 29, 2010 9:34 PM ESTFederal Communications Comission. Colin Powell's som Michael Powell was the head of the comission during Bush II's administration.
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I only listen to talk radio and KEARTH. Except for Samantha Mumba, I find most of today's music trite and sophomoric.
- 1 vote
#14 - Wed Dec 29, 2010 11:51 PM ESTDIRECTV has great music stations & lots of them where I have found lots of new underground and good trance and dance music that you won't hear on KISS FM Radio as they play the same song over and over again. I usually download my own music so I don't have to hassle with the radio stations playing Ke$ha til I puke!
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#17 - Wed Jan 5, 2011 6:13 PM ESTunderground music is the @!$%# thats why i listen to insnae clown posse tech n9ne twiztid hed pe critical bill prozak so sick social club axe murder boys playaz lounge crew kid crusher ....im a juggalo n this message is juggalo apporved @!$%# the mainstream n i end this with a shout out to my lettes n los out there whoop whoop fam keep it wickid n scrubbin pieces im out
#18 - Sun Sep 11, 2011 9:43 PM EDTWhat you have been listening to is not really Hip-Hop. Hip-Hop is a culture spawned from young Black urban youth in the burrows of New York City during its Renaissance between 1979 and 1980. You have been exposed to the derailment of true Hip-Hop. Now called Rap Music. Also what your witnessing is the fall of rap music, but the Phoenix of true Hip-Hop is rising and will shine brightly once again. Peace
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